On this week's edition of The Times's Ruck podcast, Stephen Jones and others selected their all-time great XVs from players they have either seen live or seen on TV.
Jones's selection was an eyebrow-raising one, to say the least.
It was one featuring just two All Blacks, prop, Olo Brown, and centre, Frank Bunce, and twice as many Welsh.
A Welshman, Jones can be forgiven a little bias towards his native land. Though, the inclusion of Dan Lydiate in the back row was the only selection questioned by his fellow podcasters. "We're not doing this to be popular, are we?" replied Jones.
Strangely, there are also more Argentinians than New Zealanders, including Juan Martin Hernandez at out-half ahead of the man many would consider the greatest ten ever, Dan Carter.
The only Irish players who were mentioned as being in consideration are Rob Kearney at fullback and Johnny Sexton at out-half. There was no word for Brian O'Driscoll or Paul O'Connell.
Stephen Jones's Greatest XV
15. Chris Latham (Australia)
14. Gerald Davies (Wales)
13. Jeremy Guscott (England)
12. Frank Bunce (New Zealand)
11. David Campese (Australia)
10. Juan Martin Hernandez (Argentina)
9. Gareth Edwards (Wales)
8. Sergio Parisse (Italy)
7. Sam Warburton (Wales)
6. Dan Lydiate (Wales)
5. Patricio Albacete (Argentina)
4. Simon Shaw (England)
3. Olo Brown (New Zealand)
2. Mario Ledesma (Argentina)
1. Garry Pagel (South Africa)
